First of all, sorry for reviving a controversial topic. But one of the points in this discussion was that newcomers would feel unwelcomed by "quirky" captions, and so, as someone who just got into 2kki less than 4 months ago, I thought my opinion could be helpful somehow (then again, I'm just a single person and others will perceive things differently so please take this whole post with a big grain of salt) I personally find the captions to be endearing. Most of the time, they have a certain charm to them and they bring life to this wiki.

The topic never actually died, I'm just planning on leaving if conflict starts up again, or maybe just in a few days. (I might add that I'll still check in occasionally, mostly for the troubleshooting forum)

Honestly, I'm actually glad you responded because we really need outside-ish opinions on this topic. As it stands I really don't feel like we have enough input to really come to a conclusion. (Admittedly I've honestly considered ringing up the Yume Nikki wiki and asking for their thoughts on the captions, though I'm not sure that's a great idea)

But yeah, thank you. I definitely agree they cause no harm; I do still feel that they would be more effective if they gave more of a lighthearted or friendly tone, but still one that takes itself seriously; which is why I removed my "the sun burned out" comment, and there's another caption on the Sugar World page I'll probably remove.

Hi, Lips. That's basically what I'm planning on doing too. In other words, seeing how Bullet could be ignoring both you and me (something that no mod should ever do, in my honest opinion) and I had said everything that I needed to say then yeah, I decided to leave before this scalated to something worse.

Besides, its the Yume Nikki Wiki as active as ours? Seeing how that game hasn't been updated in a while I though that it would be more than death.

Anon, your opinion is more than welcome here. Heck, its basically the crux of the problem, opinions like yours. We need as much opinions from outsiders as we can get!.

Thank you for your accusations where I couldn't possibly ignore them, Megagutsman. My intention on those last edits I undid was just on the infoboxes to add some consistency between location pages, but I can't say I care about the standards problem right now.

I apologize if I said something out of line, its just the impresion I had nothing more. Again, if I said something that I shouldn't I apologize, I tend to speak without thinking.

It's fine. I really should've waited for other people to show up in the thread to voice their opinions before editing. I'm just used to correcting things immediately after receiving one bit of negative reception, that's all.

Oh, okay. I was scared that I had made you angry or something. I hate doing so.

Honestly, Bullet, I don't blame you for wanting to make the changes quickly and move on. I definitely feel that, if it means this place remains a safe place to discuss the game, a couple captions and screenshots are worth deleting. So, I'm sorry about what I said earlier, that I was afraid another fight would start up.

Back on topic, I might add that I do still feel we can keep the screenshots themselves. I know you're worried that having them there will ruin the feel of the world itself, but considering that no amount of screenshots will ever mean a wiki page could substitute for the world itself, we're probably good in that department. Besides, if a player wants to use the wiki to help them keep tabs on where they are in the world, screenshots could be really helpful, which is why I suggested spreading them around the page where the image in the screenshot would appear in the text instead of simply having them all clustered at the bottom.

By the way, Mega, because of the new upgraded Yume Nikki re-release that's coming out soon, we're actually less active than the Yume Nikki wiki- and considering that there will likely be a lot of content from the remake that will have to be documented in its wiki, that will likely be true for a good while, at least if the content of the re-sequel ends up being as esoteric as some of the stuff in the original game. (I swear, I recall some of that stuff not being found for years after the original game's release)

Sorry, was away from wikia for a while. That was definitely an interesting topic to go through.

While that anon was maybe a bit argumentative, sure, it's a valid point that it clashes with the factual way the pages and everything else are presented. (although one of the examples for a bad caption was the "check out my tats" one for the squareworld giant, which I actually kinda like even though it's extremely wry. blah blah humour is subjective.)

It's probably the only aspect of this wiki that isn't completely matter-of-fact "this is the area it is grey with a house" etc though. Given the comparisons, I'm not sure 2kki is really as "serious abstract art" as something like a david lynch film though, or even the original YN itself.

The real question, I guess, is whether as an info database that means everything has to be stone cold factual descriptions of the content like some microsoft encarta deal about a sortof surreal video game.

So do we ditch like every caption that isn't "this is a picture of a house in the southeast corner of the area", or what? Could always just do a poll, not sure if the userbase here is large enough for any kind of comprehensive answer though.

Edit: If we make enough world maps we can just reduce how many screenshots there are overall, which could be an easy way around this.

I've already made a case for us keeping the screenshots themselves, as they can help to point out more significant landmarks, and other places that wouldn't be quite as clear on the map. In addition, the worlds often have things the maps don't capture, such as objects represented by event data as opposed to tile data (Overgrown City), filters (Deserted Town), color changes and other instances of playing with hue (Old Train Station... Yeah Wataru did a lot of that) that the screenshots could help capture. I do agree that we should probably have a bit more focus with our screenshots, making sure we're taking them of objects that really need screenshots taken of them.